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		<title>By: Scot in London</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167376</link>
		<author>Scot in London</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 You are so so right!This year is the year of the ARABS</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167252</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 17

Jimmy Johnstone played at a time when there were less internationals and whole load of good wingers, his cap total is not down to any anti-Irish bigotry.  Johnstone was Scottish not Irish.</description>
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<p>Jimmy Johnstone played at a time when there were less internationals and whole load of good wingers, his cap total is not down to any anti-Irish bigotry.  Johnstone was Scottish not Irish.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McL</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167207</link>
		<author>Jim McL</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>19.

We are the People you mean.</description>
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<p>We are the People you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Boab</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167161</link>
		<author>Boab</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Scottish football is blighted by anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic sectrarianism."

Quite right Jim McL. It's only those blue nosed-royalist-loyalist-orange-lodge-bastards that are the problem. We're perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scottish football is blighted by anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic sectrarianism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite right Jim McL. It&#8217;s only those blue nosed-royalist-loyalist-orange-lodge-bastards that are the problem. We&#8217;re perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McL</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167144</link>
		<author>Jim McL</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17. 

The last paragraph should have explained the disastrous impact of Rangers fans hooliganism on the image of a club currently for sale.</description>
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<p>The last paragraph should have explained the disastrous impact of Rangers fans hooliganism on the image of a club currently for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McL</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167142</link>
		<author>Jim McL</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scottish football is blighted by anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic sectrarianism. The Lion roard at Wembley in spite of this. Check out the caps awarded to players of European Champions Celtic, including the likes of Jimmy Johnston. Things have generally improved for the Irish in Scotland since the seventies. Racism and bigotry still exist though, from the never ending Orange parades each summer in west/central Scotland, and the despicable "Famine Song" - google the lyrics if not easily offended- sung by thousands of Rangers fans at matches (in between being "up-to-their knees in fenian blood" and songs about "fenian bastards." 

Naked sectarianism and racism goes unreported or unpunished by authorites who, when pressed admit as much. Even the football anti-racism group refused to condemn the "Famine Song" until pressed the Irish Government earlier this year. The problem is written-off as, Ach it's only Rangers and Celtic at it again- They're just two sides of the same coin! 

This not only panders to the racists and bigots, it taints the innocent by association. Celtic Park has since Land Leaguer, Michael Davitt laid a sod of shamrocks to commemorate the club, been the meeting point for the Irish in Scotland and a focus for anti-establishment pro-republucan sentiment. As far as the establishment in scotland is concerned this amounts to the same thing as sectarianism, and the label sectarianism allows racism to be swept under a carpet which is......Just Celtic and Rangers at it again, they're as bad as each other, you know!

The above has allowed the capitalist bastards who own Celtic and Rangers to feed-off each other under the guise of the "Old-Firm." For years they have dominated and squeezed the other teams in Scotland, robbing the best talent, and consequently most of the trophies. Rangers in 1967 even felt sufficiently dominant to refuse to employ Catholics. They only changed this unwritten rule around twenty years later. The Scottish Football Association remains a retirement home for former Rangers men, who bend over backwards for "the" Rangers. Celtic feeds off this pro Rangers bias, ever an excuse for not matching their supporters ambitions!

Now the "Old Firm" see their salvation in that promised land south of the border. Have been rejected by the EPL(turkeys don't vote for Christmas)both Celtic and Rangers are undergoing a major downsizing exercise. 

While Celtic are obsessed with zero debt (Billionare major shareholder Dermot Desmond seems to have put Celtic on the back-burner pending an invitation from some sooper dooper league), Rangers are tens of millions in the red, and part of a larger company which may be nearly a billion in debt. The "bank is now running the club" according to Rangers manager Walter Smith. All players are for sale in the January window as the bank attempts to recoup its losses. 

Since Rangers are skint(not to mention the odious lumpen hordes in their support) and Celtic Plc stupidly believes the title (and Champions League money) will be theirs almost by default.......the door is open to Hibs, Dundee United or Aberdeen to make a challenge. I'd love to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottish football is blighted by anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic sectrarianism. The Lion roard at Wembley in spite of this. Check out the caps awarded to players of European Champions Celtic, including the likes of Jimmy Johnston. Things have generally improved for the Irish in Scotland since the seventies. Racism and bigotry still exist though, from the never ending Orange parades each summer in west/central Scotland, and the despicable &#8220;Famine Song&#8221; - google the lyrics if not easily offended- sung by thousands of Rangers fans at matches (in between being &#8220;up-to-their knees in fenian blood&#8221; and songs about &#8220;fenian bastards.&#8221; </p>
<p>Naked sectarianism and racism goes unreported or unpunished by authorites who, when pressed admit as much. Even the football anti-racism group refused to condemn the &#8220;Famine Song&#8221; until pressed the Irish Government earlier this year. The problem is written-off as, Ach it&#8217;s only Rangers and Celtic at it again- They&#8217;re just two sides of the same coin! </p>
<p>This not only panders to the racists and bigots, it taints the innocent by association. Celtic Park has since Land Leaguer, Michael Davitt laid a sod of shamrocks to commemorate the club, been the meeting point for the Irish in Scotland and a focus for anti-establishment pro-republucan sentiment. As far as the establishment in scotland is concerned this amounts to the same thing as sectarianism, and the label sectarianism allows racism to be swept under a carpet which is&#8230;&#8230;Just Celtic and Rangers at it again, they&#8217;re as bad as each other, you know!</p>
<p>The above has allowed the capitalist bastards who own Celtic and Rangers to feed-off each other under the guise of the &#8220;Old-Firm.&#8221; For years they have dominated and squeezed the other teams in Scotland, robbing the best talent, and consequently most of the trophies. Rangers in 1967 even felt sufficiently dominant to refuse to employ Catholics. They only changed this unwritten rule around twenty years later. The Scottish Football Association remains a retirement home for former Rangers men, who bend over backwards for &#8220;the&#8221; Rangers. Celtic feeds off this pro Rangers bias, ever an excuse for not matching their supporters ambitions!</p>
<p>Now the &#8220;Old Firm&#8221; see their salvation in that promised land south of the border. Have been rejected by the EPL(turkeys don&#8217;t vote for Christmas)both Celtic and Rangers are undergoing a major downsizing exercise. </p>
<p>While Celtic are obsessed with zero debt (Billionare major shareholder Dermot Desmond seems to have put Celtic on the back-burner pending an invitation from some sooper dooper league), Rangers are tens of millions in the red, and part of a larger company which may be nearly a billion in debt. The &#8220;bank is now running the club&#8221; according to Rangers manager Walter Smith. All players are for sale in the January window as the bank attempts to recoup its losses. </p>
<p>Since Rangers are skint(not to mention the odious lumpen hordes in their support) and Celtic Plc stupidly believes the title (and Champions League money) will be theirs almost by default&#8230;&#8230;.the door is open to Hibs, Dundee United or Aberdeen to make a challenge. I&#8217;d love to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167131</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 13 celtic are not facing an economic collapse and in fact are improving their finances outside of what effect the recession will have.</description>
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		<title>By: Karl Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167115</link>
		<author>Karl Stewart</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politically, recent years have seen a huge growth in Scottish national consciousness.
The general consensus seems to be that the establishment of a Scottish Parliament has been a success and has brought benefits to the Scottish people for example.
And, although the credit crunch has seen talk of independence recede somewhat, there still seems to be an underlying trend in that direction. 
But in football, there have been growing calls for Scotland's two leading clubs to join the English league as the Scottish domestic game has become less competitive than ever, a move that, if it did happen, would fatally undermine Scottish football's independence.
Do others agree there's something of a paradox here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politically, recent years have seen a huge growth in Scottish national consciousness.<br />
The general consensus seems to be that the establishment of a Scottish Parliament has been a success and has brought benefits to the Scottish people for example.<br />
And, although the credit crunch has seen talk of independence recede somewhat, there still seems to be an underlying trend in that direction.<br />
But in football, there have been growing calls for Scotland&#8217;s two leading clubs to join the English league as the Scottish domestic game has become less competitive than ever, a move that, if it did happen, would fatally undermine Scottish football&#8217;s independence.<br />
Do others agree there&#8217;s something of a paradox here?</p>
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		<title>By: graham</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167088</link>
		<author>graham</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never thought i'd get a chance to say this on socialist unity 

but come on the arabs! dundee united fucking rule,we smashed the celts and we are comin for the huns,

hands off sfa cos levein's no leavin'....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never thought i&#8217;d get a chance to say this on socialist unity </p>
<p>but come on the arabs! dundee united fucking rule,we smashed the celts and we are comin for the huns,</p>
<p>hands off sfa cos levein&#8217;s no leavin&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphie</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4915#comment-167017</link>
		<author>Raphie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scottish football is a very healthy state with the economic collapse of Celtic, Rangers and Hearts. A level playing field and more interest in the wider population Some of the community and young talent is starting to come through again. Not long till we can take the piss out of England at Wembley again with the latest crop of Baxters, Laws and Johnstones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottish football is a very healthy state with the economic collapse of Celtic, Rangers and Hearts. A level playing field and more interest in the wider population Some of the community and young talent is starting to come through again. Not long till we can take the piss out of England at Wembley again with the latest crop of Baxters, Laws and Johnstones.</p>
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