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	<title>Comments on: GALLOWAY PAYS TRIBUTE TO REDMOND O&#8217;NEILL</title>
	<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: john cutts</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-164147</link>
		<author>john cutts</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 23 &#38; 25 

has it never occurred to you that what you call secrecy but what more accurately should be called discretion, is dictated by the circumstances ?
In today's circumstances of rampant reaction, who gains if a campaign can be discredited by labelling it a 'loony left' front because its left wing leadership allowed this by  putting self promotion above promotion of the campaign in question ?

I am proud to say i knew Redmond for 29 years and i know his guiding principle was that, as Marx and Engels put it in the Communist Manifesto: " the Communists have no interests separate and apart from those of the working class as a whole". If furthering the interests of the many progressive campaigns he was involved in meant doing unsung, anonymous  work without raising his own or his organisation's profile then that was the price to be paid for that campaign's efficacy.

I would have thought such an approach should be commended rather than condemned given the British left's penchant for self promotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 23 &amp; 25 </p>
<p>has it never occurred to you that what you call secrecy but what more accurately should be called discretion, is dictated by the circumstances ?<br />
In today&#8217;s circumstances of rampant reaction, who gains if a campaign can be discredited by labelling it a &#8216;loony left&#8217; front because its left wing leadership allowed this by  putting self promotion above promotion of the campaign in question ?</p>
<p>I am proud to say i knew Redmond for 29 years and i know his guiding principle was that, as Marx and Engels put it in the Communist Manifesto: &#8221; the Communists have no interests separate and apart from those of the working class as a whole&#8221;. If furthering the interests of the many progressive campaigns he was involved in meant doing unsung, anonymous  work without raising his own or his organisation&#8217;s profile then that was the price to be paid for that campaign&#8217;s efficacy.</p>
<p>I would have thought such an approach should be commended rather than condemned given the British left&#8217;s penchant for self promotion.</p>
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		<title>By: Lobby Ludd</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-161841</link>
		<author>Lobby Ludd</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey:

"23 - ‘Doesn’t look like socialism to me.’

I’m sure this is terrifying them."

And your fucking point is? Some kind of macho thing, 'steel-hardened communist' stuff and all that, I suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey:</p>
<p>&#8220;23 - ‘Doesn’t look like socialism to me.’</p>
<p>I’m sure this is terrifying them.&#8221;</p>
<p>And your fucking point is? Some kind of macho thing, &#8217;steel-hardened communist&#8217; stuff and all that, I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-161840</link>
		<author>mikey</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23 - 'Doesn’t look like socialism to me.'

I'm sure this is terrifying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23 - &#8216;Doesn’t look like socialism to me.&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure this is terrifying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lobby Ludd</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-161839</link>
		<author>Lobby Ludd</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing wrong with 'dividing opinion', although there are ways in which it is done that are unacceptable for socialists. 

Being part of a secretive clique is likely to lead to unacceptable actions. Does 'Socialist Action' exist, what are their politics? At least with the RCP/LM/Spiked lot you get to read an on-line publication. 

Doesn't look like socialism to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong with &#8216;dividing opinion&#8217;, although there are ways in which it is done that are unacceptable for socialists. </p>
<p>Being part of a secretive clique is likely to lead to unacceptable actions. Does &#8216;Socialist Action&#8217; exist, what are their politics? At least with the RCP/LM/Spiked lot you get to read an on-line publication. </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t look like socialism to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ger Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-161835</link>
		<author>Ger Francis</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course he bloody divided opinion. And no doubt stamped on toes. Whether rightly or wrongly, its impossible not to in politics if you are fighting for what you belief in. But what was clear from Redmond’s large funeral and the tributes paid to him from representatives of the Venezuelan government, Sinn Fein, Ken Livingstone, Diane Abbott and others, was that he was an internationalist, a communist, an Irish republican, and a thoroughly committed anti-racist. Anas Altikriti spoke powerfully of the critical role he played behind the scenes in helping to unite London’s communities after 7/7. Whatever political differences some on the left may have had with him, they subordinate themselves to these facts on his death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course he bloody divided opinion. And no doubt stamped on toes. Whether rightly or wrongly, its impossible not to in politics if you are fighting for what you belief in. But what was clear from Redmond’s large funeral and the tributes paid to him from representatives of the Venezuelan government, Sinn Fein, Ken Livingstone, Diane Abbott and others, was that he was an internationalist, a communist, an Irish republican, and a thoroughly committed anti-racist. Anas Altikriti spoke powerfully of the critical role he played behind the scenes in helping to unite London’s communities after 7/7. Whatever political differences some on the left may have had with him, they subordinate themselves to these facts on his death.</p>
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		<title>By: plastic paddy</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-161813</link>
		<author>plastic paddy</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if there have identity politics in heaven ( or hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if there have identity politics in heaven ( or hell.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-161527</link>
		<author>henry</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He did divide opinion - and that in itself presents a recurring problem of the "Left" when in positions of leadership...

http://www.davidosler.com/2009/10/redmond_oneill_an_assessment_b.html

...for a more critical assessment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did divide opinion - and that in itself presents a recurring problem of the &#8220;Left&#8221; when in positions of leadership&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.davidosler.com/2009/10/redmond_oneill_an_assessment_b.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidosler.com/2009/10/redmond_oneill_an_assessment_b.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230;for a more critical assessment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lobby Ludd</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-160507</link>
		<author>Lobby Ludd</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Redmond O'Neill:

Given the sensitivity of the matter - he leaves behind people who loved him, people who admired him, people who supported him in his politics - then I can understand why my comments were censored, not that I agree with that.

But:

"Galloway, Gerry Adams and Salma Yacoob and Ken Livingstone are all people who have advanced the struggle in their own way.

To be recognised for your contribution by four such giants is testimony enough."

Sorry, not 'giants', and in a funny way, not 'testimony enough'.

It is not inappropriate to mention his major involvement in the curious thing called 'Socialist Action' (called so by others, if not themselves). How could it be, that's what he did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Redmond O&#8217;Neill:</p>
<p>Given the sensitivity of the matter - he leaves behind people who loved him, people who admired him, people who supported him in his politics - then I can understand why my comments were censored, not that I agree with that.</p>
<p>But:</p>
<p>&#8220;Galloway, Gerry Adams and Salma Yacoob and Ken Livingstone are all people who have advanced the struggle in their own way.</p>
<p>To be recognised for your contribution by four such giants is testimony enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, not &#8216;giants&#8217;, and in a funny way, not &#8216;testimony enough&#8217;.</p>
<p>It is not inappropriate to mention his major involvement in the curious thing called &#8216;Socialist Action&#8217; (called so by others, if not themselves). How could it be, that&#8217;s what he did?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Osborn</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-160498</link>
		<author>Mark Osborn</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Osborn</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4803#comment-160478</link>
		<author>Mark Osborn</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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