Comments on: NEWS INTERNATIONAL http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357 Debate and discussion between socialists Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:51:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Graham http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140956 Graham Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:55:45 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140956 Larry, you don't know it's hearsay. Sheridan, T - 5 years Sheridan, G - 3 years And the rest will then be prosecuted and get two years apiece. Larry, you don’t know it’s hearsay.

Sheridan, T - 5 years

Sheridan, G - 3 years

And the rest will then be prosecuted and get two years apiece.

]]> By: larry http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140944 larry Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:18:47 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140944 28# Most of the indictment will be withdrawn as much of it is hearsay. I think the allegations by Trolle will be played out in court. There is now an obvious cover up by the editor on the alleged phone tapping in Scotland. And a reluctance by the police to investigate it. The defence lawyers and QCs will have a field day on points of law. We have got to move on from this comic opera. BTW I did donate to his defence appeal as I dont like people being incarcerated, even a tainted socialist. Tommy has brought it on himself if he goes down. 28# Most of the indictment will be withdrawn as much of it is hearsay. I think the allegations by Trolle will be played out in court.
There is now an obvious cover up by the editor on the alleged phone tapping in Scotland. And a reluctance by the police to investigate it.
The defence lawyers and QCs will have a field day on points of law. We have got to move on from this comic opera.
BTW I did donate to his defence appeal as I dont like people being incarcerated, even a tainted socialist. Tommy has brought it on himself if he goes down.

]]> By: Jim Monaghan http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140937 Jim Monaghan Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:58:50 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140937 Lets get this clear, the indictment doesnt say that Sheridans brother in law or Gails aunt are witnesses 'for' the crown. The idea being pushed is that, as their address as listed as "c/o police', that this means they are on the prosecution side of the case. This is misinformation. "c/o police" is simply a method of protecting witnesses and doesnt indicate what sort of evidence they will give. Straw clutching in the extreme :) Lets get this clear, the indictment doesnt say that Sheridans brother in law or Gails aunt are witnesses ‘for’ the crown. The idea being pushed is that, as their address as listed as “c/o police’, that this means they are on the prosecution side of the case. This is misinformation. “c/o police” is simply a method of protecting witnesses and doesnt indicate what sort of evidence they will give. Straw clutching in the extreme :)

]]> By: Jim Monaghan http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140912 Jim Monaghan Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:59:54 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140912 he is on the list of witnesses that the crown can call, he isnt a witness for the crowns case! he is on the list of witnesses that the crown can call, he isnt a witness for the crowns case!

]]> By: Graham http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140726 Graham Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:04:51 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140726 The indictment reveals Sheridan's brother-in-law is a crown witness. This is a massive conspiracy with 180 prosecution witnesses, including relatives of the Sheridans. The indictment reveals Sheridan’s brother-in-law is a crown witness.
This is a massive conspiracy with 180 prosecution witnesses, including relatives of the Sheridans.

]]> By: unity - you know it makes sense http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140631 unity - you know it makes sense Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:16:08 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140631 #25 Interesting answer Albert as I asked the question of "Dennis". Could it be that this anti-Sheridan tag team is in fact one and the same person? I think we should be told! #25 Interesting answer Albert as I asked the question of “Dennis”.

Could it be that this anti-Sheridan tag team is in fact one and the same person?

I think we should be told!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140622 Anonymous Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:58:34 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140622 #28 phew! Surely charge 1 can only have been initated by C. Fox himself? Whatever can be said either way about the second array of "charges" that first one is an eye opener! #28 phew!

Surely charge 1 can only have been initated by C. Fox himself? Whatever can be said either way about the second array of “charges” that first one is an eye opener!

]]> By: Graham http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140544 Graham Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:18:12 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140544 Here's the publicly available copy of the indictment against Tommy Sheridan, which is worth reading closely. It certainly seems to be a massive conspiracy. http://theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2519695.0.Sheridan_perjuy_case_full_indictment.php Here’s the publicly available copy of the indictment against Tommy Sheridan, which is worth reading closely.

It certainly seems to be a massive conspiracy.

http://theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2519695.0.Sheridan_perjuy_case_full_indictment.php

]]> By: Neil Williams http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140354 Neil Williams Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:22:49 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140354 "Public figures and celebrities who fear they were the subjects of the phone hacking have been contacting lawyers. The Bethnal Green and Bow MP George Galloway said he was seeing if any action could be taken. The politician had clashed with the paper in 2006 when its investigations editor, Mahzer Mahmood, attempted to "sting" him at a hotel and implicate him in illegal political funding. Rod Christie-Miller, partner at the specialist media law firm Schillings, said: "Clients are going to want to see what comes out. Sooner or later there is going to be more concrete evidence about who has been targeted." Christie-Miller said his firm was already suspicious that phone hacking could have been used against high-profile clients before the story broke. "It is something we were concerned may have been happening," he added. "We have advised clients to change settings on phones and turn off bluetooth." http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/12/phone-hacking-targets-claims Well it would be no surprise if George had his phone hacked. If I was Tommy Sheridan I would also be consulting legal advise alongside George Galloway as both are very likely to be on the News Internaional target list (at the top) - Tommy should also raise this isssue in the Edinburgh’s High Court on Monday! “Public figures and celebrities who fear they were the subjects of the phone hacking have been contacting lawyers. The Bethnal Green and Bow MP George Galloway said he was seeing if any action could be taken. The politician had clashed with the paper in 2006 when its investigations editor, Mahzer Mahmood, attempted to “sting” him at a hotel and implicate him in illegal political funding.

Rod Christie-Miller, partner at the specialist media law firm Schillings, said: “Clients are going to want to see what comes out. Sooner or later there is going to be more concrete evidence about who has been targeted.”

Christie-Miller said his firm was already suspicious that phone hacking could have been used against high-profile clients before the story broke.

“It is something we were concerned may have been happening,” he added. “We have advised clients to change settings on phones and turn off bluetooth.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/12/phone-hacking-targets-claims

Well it would be no surprise if George had his phone hacked. If I was Tommy Sheridan I would also be consulting legal advise alongside George Galloway as both are very likely to be on the News Internaional target list (at the top) - Tommy should also raise this isssue in the Edinburgh’s High Court on Monday!

]]> By: Ed W http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140329 Ed W Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:51:26 +0000 http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4357#comment-140329 Did anyone read this article in yesterday's Guardian, and wonder if he was talking about the Sheridan case? "One of the tabloids' biggest stories of recent years was about a politician's sexual habits, which had first been leaked by the security services to a private investigator with links to the tabloids. He then carried out his own surveillance operation to gather further concrete evidence before presenting the story to a tabloid, which duly published every sordid detail, knowing full well the story had been "copper-bottomed" by undeniable subterfuge." http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/11/notw-phone-hacking-private-investigators Not unlikely that some branches of the secret state might have been keeping tabs on the SSP for other reasons, and come across some dirt on Tommy Sheridan they would have passed on to contacts to cause a little mischief. Pity Sheridan took the bait. As a well-wisher of the SSP, who thinks they were 95% in the right in the stand they took in 2006, I hope the perjury case doesn't come to trial - I don't want to see Sheridan or anybody else go to jail because of the whole mess, let people draw their own conclusions about whether he was telling the truth and whether he did the right thing, without letting the courts decide. I doubt any of the senior Murdoch scumbags who presided over the criminal actions brought to light lately will have any reason to worry about seeing the inside of a prison cell, so why should left activists go to jail for much less (and I think Sheridan's behaviour was completely shabby and indefensible, so I'm not making this argument out of fondness for him) Did anyone read this article in yesterday’s Guardian, and wonder if he was talking about the Sheridan case?

“One of the tabloids’ biggest stories of recent years was about a politician’s sexual habits, which had first been leaked by the security services to a private investigator with links to the tabloids. He then carried out his own surveillance operation to gather further concrete evidence before presenting the story to a tabloid, which duly published every sordid detail, knowing full well the story had been “copper-bottomed” by undeniable subterfuge.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/11/notw-phone-hacking-private-investigators

Not unlikely that some branches of the secret state might have been keeping tabs on the SSP for other reasons, and come across some dirt on Tommy Sheridan they would have passed on to contacts to cause a little mischief. Pity Sheridan took the bait.

As a well-wisher of the SSP, who thinks they were 95% in the right in the stand they took in 2006, I hope the perjury case doesn’t come to trial - I don’t want to see Sheridan or anybody else go to jail because of the whole mess, let people draw their own conclusions about whether he was telling the truth and whether he did the right thing, without letting the courts decide. I doubt any of the senior Murdoch scumbags who presided over the criminal actions brought to light lately will have any reason to worry about seeing the inside of a prison cell, so why should left activists go to jail for much less (and I think Sheridan’s behaviour was completely shabby and indefensible, so I’m not making this argument out of fondness for him)

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